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Z-man
05-24-2008, 03:01 AM
ASFASDFASDF I finally have some internet uptime and hopefully AT&T has it all fixed. This is not really a huge thread but it's related to the June game we have coming up and the paint that DevilMan can get people should they want it.

Friday evening I ran over to DevilMan's place and did a simple but informative little drop test on the 3 grades of paint they have.

http://www.zakvetter.com/images/linked_images/gap_paint_3.jpg
Low Grade "The Edge Paintballs" as described on the box.
left side

Mid Grade
"The Best Paintballs" as described on the box
center

High Grade
"Dynasty Paintballs" (and Japanese charicters) as described on the box
right side

Before we did the drop test we sized the paint just to see what appeared to be.

All 3 grades appeared about right for a .687 bore.

So then we took 5 random balls from each grade of paint and dropped them from ~6 feet up onto a concrete floor.

Results

http://www.zakvetter.com/images/linked_images/low-grade.jpg
Low Grade GAP
6 foot drop- Took more than 5 drops and very often did not break.
9 foot drop- Usually broke in 1-3 drops.
Fill- mostly water soluble. Some oil that stained the concrete. Nothing amazing about the thickness but nothing to complain about either.
Final Comments- Compared to some of the other stuff we tested later this was not that bad. Don't get me wrong it was the poorest performing of the GAP (kind of a duh) but after testing that "Bonus Ball" crap we got at CPP I would not call the GAP stuff garbage paint.

http://www.zakvetter.com/images/linked_images/mid-grade.jpg
Mid Grade GAP
6 foot drop- Usually broke in 1-3 drops.
9 foot drop- Broke every time.
Fill- Water soluble. The stuff has that candy apple smell. Not an objectionable smell but pretty strong. Little bit thicker fill but it's no ZAP Primer...
Final Comments- I was surprised that this paint clearly seemed to have a higher level of quality. A shell that was hard and broke at lower heights and a nicer fill (better thickness and washed of real easy in water).

http://www.zakvetter.com/images/linked_images/high-grade.jpg
High Grade GAP
6 foot drop- Broke every time. First drop and it shattered (see image)
9 foot drop- Didn't bother...
Fill- Water soluble. REALLY bright orange fill (why don't they choose to make all fills bright like this one....?). Smells of chemical banana. Not an objectionable smell but pretty strong... ok maybe it's annoying. Nice this fill.
Final Comments- Again, I was not really expecting to see a clear difference in the paint. This stuff really sold me. Unless I get some compelling reason to buy the stuff at Extreme Ill be buying 3 cases of this stuff.

I'll try and put of the images of the REALLY bad paint we tested for the heck of it after I finish editing this movie this weekend.

Blennidae
05-24-2008, 03:30 AM
Just out of curiosity, what is the price difference in the 3 grades?

SithSteve
05-24-2008, 07:54 AM
Another thing to take into consideration is the smell/odor that certain paints give off. If using paint like this outdoors (especially in the woods), it will tend to attract bees...

...and as a person that, 1. is allergic, and 2. has been attacked by a swarm of °°°°ed-off ground bees, I tend to run with something that is as neutral smelling as possible!

DevilMan
05-24-2008, 09:49 AM
Blenn... the exact prices are not known yet. Even my guy isn't sure just yet because he don't have the bill.

It basically comes from my guy who is a GAP distributor. He orders it, they ship it, I get it. He charges me what it costs and nothing more. Any paint we order up will cost that as well. It will be cost + shipping + any PP fees. ONLY COST.

He is not out to make money from us, but he can't lose $1 a box in paypal fees.

For the most part we are looking at about $40, $45, $55 dollars a box. In that area at least I think. Take into account that shipping has gone up with the gas prices. For me it's not a big deal as I'd rather have fresh good stuff shipped to me as I would drive somewhere to buy who knows how old stuff. And after the fiasco with CPP and the $60 crap they wanted to sell and the BonusBall crap I ended up with I'll take my chances with getting stuff to me fresh from the factory.

I do know my guy ordered it on Monday, it arrived on Thursday. That's not to say that if I order it up for us that I will be waiting that long. I will need to be paid ahead of time of course in a timely manner.

I should have a total bill for 3 boxes of it shipped to me by the end of this week. As he'll get the tab and relay it to me. He's already been paid by me but he knows what it's for and knows I need the numbers.

SithSteve... Not sure if any of these smells will attract critters. The banana scent is pretty inorganic smell and the green apple well... is as well. Good point though and I'll keep it in mind. Good way to get someone out... Just light their bunker up til they get attacked by some nasties... :D

Anyway... That's that... Any other questions please refer to my biotch for answers.... :rofl2:

DM

Cable
05-24-2008, 09:59 AM
what No video? You expect us just to take your word on this?

CKY_Alliance
05-24-2008, 11:26 AM
They are pretty quick on shipping. They are based in Nevada, I live in SC/FL and they would have 10-12 cases to me in a week when I ordered.


We always shot the Mid grade, which was called lighting. I guess they changed the name. I love gap, if I could shoot only that I would, but no one caries it on the east coast. At least not anywhere I've played.


The price of the mid grade with like 10 cases and shipping (to SC) is $42.00 a case. Which for the paint you get, it's awesome. That's the dealer price. And of course the more you order the cheaper it gets. The recommended price for dealers to sell is like 60 ish I wanna say. I don't have my pricing sheet handy and mines old anyway.


If anyone in central fl wants to put an order together let me know.

DevilMan
05-24-2008, 12:15 PM
Hey CKY... it's still called Lightning. Z was just going off of the side of the box up above the GAP logo where it says, "The Edge.." "The Best..." Such as that since it's easily visible.

So you are correct... Just the label he went by.

DM

Z-man
01-04-2010, 11:19 PM
Bumping this thread to help compare the wonderful Dynasty paint to this new stuff.

Sniper Steve
01-09-2010, 06:10 AM
When did GAP start making paint again, when I called middle of last year they said they stopped making it?

sandfreestyle
01-09-2010, 09:21 AM
GAP hasn't made paint since the middle of of 08. Zak still hopes that someone somehow will come across a couple cases of Dynasty ball.

Z-man
01-09-2010, 10:30 AM
That and I wanted to remember how the Dynasty Ball compared to this new APX paint order we have placed. Dynasty Ball is the benchmark to which I compare all other paint.

Dark Side
01-14-2010, 12:38 PM
Dynasty was the best I ever got to use. GAP sent me a few different kinds of paint back when I was a dealer to try out and their other high end stuff was nearly as good. I miss them.

DevilMan
03-09-2010, 06:52 PM
So how was the APX vs GAP paint Zak???

Did ya get more eliminations or what?

DM

Z-man
03-09-2010, 08:55 PM
So how was the APX vs GAP paint Zak???

Did ya get more eliminations or what?

DM

A sentence answer:

GAP is still the best IMO but at $30 a case vs $60 the APX is as good a fill and very decent shell (ie I'm buying APX because the price is amazing for the quality you get).

DevilMan
03-09-2010, 09:20 PM
That works for me... and I think you know how I am about my paint...

DM