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Triangle
11-21-2007, 12:46 PM
Do the fields you play at allow bunkering other players in a non-airball/tourney setting?
Is there a ten(or twenty) foot rule for walk-on or any other style of play where attend?
Are you allowed to physically touch the other player (read: with your fingers/hands) if you've snuck on them?
TnDeathInc
11-21-2007, 12:52 PM
20 foot rule unless playing tourney ball on the speedball fields. Then on the speedball fields if anyone in the rec group object bunkering doesnt occur.
smoothice
11-21-2007, 01:42 PM
I usually play private party games and they let us do whatever we want.
Mind'sEye
11-21-2007, 03:00 PM
In recreational situations, we use a 10 foot rule. A touch out is allowed. Occasionally when a group of experienced players is taking the speedball field, bunkering is made fair play by vote. Our group is open to all levels of play so we try to make it as comfortable for youngsters and newcomers as we can. Stuff like over shooting and cheating is not tolerated.
bryceeden
11-21-2007, 03:12 PM
Bunkering hasn't really been an issue for me yet, thank goodness, as of right now I don't have any rules against it, although in a bunkering more than two shots equils overshooting which equils a trip home. Even in my tourneys and even more so in recball most people use a barrel tag or pat on the back(actually it became so prevalent in my tourneys I made it a legal elimination just incase some day someone decided not to volentarily call out) Usually players will only bunker and shoot higher level tourney players. I rather like it that way and hope I never get a problem with it, most of my players are very good at self regulating and setting examples for newcomers.
Maniac Mechanic
11-21-2007, 04:52 PM
I play mostly (99.8%) outlaw woodsball we use a 15 to20 foot line of sight bang rule & barrel tags , no hands on
10 feet rule and you can call surrender, no touching. At that point the opponent can either surrender or not, its fair game, shooting is allowed within the 10 feet at that point, you had your chance to go easy.
MedicDVG
11-21-2007, 09:43 PM
10 feet rule and you can call surrender, no touching. At that point the opponent can either surrender or not, its fair game, shooting is allowed within the 10 feet at that point, you had your chance to go easy.
Yup.. thats what we play most of the time..
Outlaw5
11-21-2007, 09:50 PM
10 feet rule and you can call surrender, no touching. At that point the opponent can either surrender or not, its fair game, shooting is allowed within the 10 feet at that point, you had your chance to go easy.
That is the way we play at a field at Ft. Bragg, in NC.
Dark Side
11-22-2007, 05:52 AM
We play with consideration. Namely, you do it to others and they are bound to remember you for it and recipricate.
FiXeL
11-22-2007, 09:57 AM
I have no problems with it when playing speedball, because it is considered a normal thing to do over here. If you don't, the other player will. But when playing woods we do have a non bunker rule, even a 15ft non-shooting zone around every player. Sometimes you get closer, to a point you can bunker somebody. But generally i ask if they want to surrender, when they get a closeup look of my barrel. We also have one pump player that is known for sneaking up behind you and tapping you on the shoulder with the question if you want to surrender.
One other time i advanced trough the field and missed a player behind a bunker. While i was walking by the bunker i saw him and instinctively pulled the trigger. It missed and we were both in a mexican standoff at about 3ft. So the other player asked: Errr, ok, and what now? So i said: Let's call it 1 for 1 and we both walked of the field.
I try to avoid shooting players at point blank, because i know very well how that feels.
Rec field, crossed the field because I didn't see any shadow behind the far bunker. Was just about to move forward, when the kid tagged me from about 4 inches. The 3 scars are about an inch apart, in perfect half moon shapes.
I asked why he didn't simply barrel tag me. He didn't know what that was.
Damn, and I was having a great run that game too!!
Triangle
11-23-2007, 01:04 PM
Rec field, crossed the field because I didn't see any shadow behind the far bunker. Was just about to move forward, when the kid tagged me from about 4 inches. The 3 scars are about an inch apart, in perfect half moon shapes.
I asked why he didn't simply barrel tag me. He didn't know what that was.
Damn, and I was having a great run that game too!!
Hey Dave, how have you been? I've been meaning to toss you an email but it's been slipping my mind.
I hope all is well with you, big guy.
etjoyride
11-23-2007, 04:40 PM
rec play:
20ft yell surrender, ;player has the option of surrendering or shooting
5 ft no shooting at all, it becomes a tag match
open tourny play bunkering is allowed
bryceeden
11-23-2007, 05:18 PM
For the few who do allow bunkering how common is it?
Triangle
11-23-2007, 09:33 PM
For the few who do allow bunkering how common is it?
When I play(ed) I only bunkered when I knew I could take out one-two people even if I were shot out immediately after, OR if I knew I could pull it off.
maddboy32
11-24-2007, 09:43 AM
10 feet rule and you can call surrender, no touching. At that point the opponent can either surrender or not, its fair game, shooting is allowed within the 10 feet at that point, you had your chance to go easy.
that is about how we play. yell surrender if they respond then they get to walk back and not have to wipe anything off. if they turn towards you in an aggressive manner, then you have the right to "shoot low". most people i play with gun for me right off the bat so i don't get a great chance to bunker or tag anyone. (i guess i'm the popular one :o )
when they saw me and my Z-TAC coming onto the field, they new what time it was. i like that "get-all-up-in-you-grill" kinda play!!
maddboy32
11-24-2007, 09:45 AM
rec play:
20ft yell surrender, ;player has the option of surrendering or shooting
5 ft no shooting at all, it becomes a tag match
open tourny play bunkering is allowed
so at 5ft you get two guys over in the corner playing patty-cake.......i'd end up shooting at both of them just to make it stop...... :rofl2:
Stygshore
11-26-2007, 08:30 AM
Surrender is optional, offering surrender is optional - we ask that they shoot in a less painful spot if they get the drop on someone at less than 20 ft. We don't really have a barrel tag rule, but in about 99% of cases, a barrel touched to the back is the fastest way to get someone to surrender - unless they know you are out of paint.
I don't offer surrender anymore since the one time I got a 3rd nipple from a guy when I slid into his building, yelled surrender, he screamed OUT, then shot me in the chest from about 1/2 and inch away
Styg
and no... I'm not a witch... and you cant burn me.... and I do float
punkncat
11-26-2007, 09:22 AM
According to where I play and who I am playing. Generally a 15-20 ft rule. Bunker tag, no touching players, and IF you go to touch the bunker you can be shot, but cannot shoot back. Generally that field owner prefers that you circle round and get eliminations from 20ft.
Playing at the other field that allows bunkering, you'd better watch your ***. This place is full of little agglets that love nothing more than to make a bunker run. You can generally hear them running for you, lean out and gun the hell out of them before they get to you. There is not a well defined overshooting rule there, so its a hard learned lesson....not to say that I like to hit anyone with more that a short burst, its not uncommon for people to try the run by even after they are hit to get a one for one. SO I will light them up till they turn. If they want to continue coming I will gladly give it to them till hands or gun come up.
Bryce- Your field sounds just like the way a local here used to be. A bunch of regular players that treat each other like family. I'm going to have to fly up there and check it out. Sound like you have a really good thing there that has faded away around these parts.
grEnAlEins
11-26-2007, 09:31 AM
There are fields by me that go either way. Some say "Funker the Bucker" others have The Rambo Rule (tag them out) some do barrel tags and others do a tap their bunker thing. It really just depends.
Triangle
11-26-2007, 01:01 PM
Lots of good posts here.
How about this:
In the event that you are bunkered and possibly over-shot (I use the term over-shot instead of bonus ball as we all can agree theyre both different things) Do you really ever care, or put up a fuss?
I speak from experience that I'm usually so caught up in the game itself, calling opposing player movement, laning, watching my sector that It really doesn't bother me.
He got me fair and square, doesn't matter how he did it.
sepplainer
11-26-2007, 01:26 PM
1 field I play at has a 10ft rule which always seems to be used to the bunkeries advantage. (SCP)
The other couple I frequent have no such rule that I have ever been advised off. In fact I had two players bunkered and shot one out and knew of the second guy only because the ref was staring at the same spot that a player had just left. I was 6 inches away with a pallet between us and I leaned over it and yelled surender and he cyclopsed me...it should be pointed out that he shot me out of suprise more then anything. I thought about it for a while because I think if I had not leaned over the bunker and had just yelled surrender he would have walked off.
grEnAlEins
11-26-2007, 02:14 PM
Being bunkered does not bother me, other than hurting my pride. I do not mind a little overshooting out of excitement either. When it gets bad though, then there is a problem. I have seen kids take 12+ hits from 6 inches away. That is not necessary. Kiddie with a ramping *** (which in and of itself is not a problem) walked into a rec game of first timers with rentals. All these kids did was hide behind bunkers and pop out once in a while. It was easy for the kiddie to bunker the renters. It is fine for him to bunker them, as field rules allowed it. But he overshot like crazy which I see as a major issue. He turned some of the kids away from the sport for a while, or maybe forever. That is no good.
riflemanwi
12-01-2007, 07:33 PM
the field out here i play at has a surrender rule, but usually the kids dont obide by it so you gotta shoot em'
Ninjeff
12-01-2007, 11:41 PM
for rec games the 20 foot rule is ALWAYS in effect. And i feel its one of our most important rules too.
ClassicMagger
12-02-2007, 07:45 AM
Hey:
Where I usually play-groups get split up when there is enough players. The rec group has no bunkering. The advanced group does.
-ClassicMagger
TnDeathInc
12-03-2007, 06:21 AM
what he said.
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