I bet Dynasty is so proud.

[bryceeden]

Dynasty Marker
http://www.strykerpaintball.com/images/Stryker-Catalog-2008-3.jpg




Although this could be a good idea, I don't know exactly how it works but a safer CO2 tank is always a good thing.
Integrated Valve CO2 Dynasty Tanks (with fill indicator)
http://www.strykerpaintball.com/images/Stryker-Catalog-2008-7.jpg

[RogueFactor]

Oh my lord.

This isnt a joke, is it?

[TnDeathInc]

that piece of **** makes the tippman triumph look like a lamborghini

[CHRONOBREAK]

In for the first nickname

The Hunchback

[RogueFactor]

that piece of **** makes the tippman triumph look like a lamborghini

That made me laugh.

It should be called the dy-NASTY. And whats with those grips? Doubt anyone plans on making any for this marker.

[bryceeden]

Here is some more of the stuff from thier new catalog

http://www.strykerpaintball.com/images/Stryker-Catalog-2008-5.jpg

http://www.strykerpaintball.com/images/Stryker-Catalog-2008-8.jpg

The whole catalog can bee seen here. http://www.stryker-paintball.com/images/other/stryker08cat.pdf[/QUOTE]

[bryceeden]

JT-"and your reward for winning the NPPL title for the sixth time strait is your name on this"

Dynasty(under breath)-"how much do they pay us again?" "I don't know but it's not worth it" "I hate my life"


Seriosly how would you like your name on that?

[RogueFactor]

I dont get it. Is this just ** markers under the Stryker name so the public is unaware of the connection?

Or is this just another Dynasty cash-cow sponsorship

[bryceeden]

that piece of **** makes the tippman triumph look like a lamborghini

:D

[bryceeden]

I dont get it. Is this just ** markers under the Stryker name so the public is unaware of the connection?

Or is this just another Dynasty cash-cow sponsorship


Its JT trying to cash in on Dynasty. JT has always used its pro teams to try to move junk to people who don't know better, Dynasty traditionally refused but I guess the $$$ finnally added up.

[RogueFactor]

Its JT trying to cash in on Dynasty. JT has always used its pro teams to try to move junk to people who don't know better, Dynasty traditionally refused but I guess the $$$ finnally added up.

Cash-cow it is. I was unaware Dynasty could promote other companies markers while under sponsorship with **.

Isnt there some kind of legal mumbo-jumbo that sports figures must actually use the equipment they endorse?

[CHRONOBREAK]

rogue

mike jordan says eat your wheaties

i bet he is eating his right know too.

who actualy owns this stryker company?

[Geronimo7]

ugh.
why do all the "new" markers look like such crap :confused:
alot of these companies need to :slap: each other and come out with something better than these :deadhorse1: markers


gawd

[bryceeden]

Cash-cow it is. I was unaware Dynasty could promote other companies markers while under sponsorship with **.

Isnt there some kind of legal mumbo-jumbo that sports figures must actually use the equipment they endorse?


Dynasty is also sponsored by JT, have been since the teams beginning. JTs been doing this to pro teams on a smaller scale since back when they were still Brass Eagle and befor K2 even stepped into the picture. Dynasty was just too expensive untill now apperently. It is interesting, and ** will probably have something to say about it soon. I don't really know.

[bryceeden]

who actualy owns this stryker company?


JT sports

[bryceeden]

Check out these quotes from Dynasty members on the marker.

We worked with Striker to creat a sweet looking marker that preforms even better than it looks. The Dynasty kit definatly delivers-Ryan Greenspan

Stryker really listened to what todays players demands are and designed an awsome kit for anyone looking to get more serious about thier game-Todd Martinez

I wish there would have been something this good when I was stepping up from a pump marker-Alex Fraige

I sure am glad I got out when I did-Oliver Lang

OK, so I might have made the last one up myself, but the first three are legit.

[Anjin3515]

Oh I so want to see Dynasty take the field with these.

That really is one ugly gun.

[bryceeden]

Oh I so want to see Dynasty take the field with these.

That really is one ugly gun.

Me too. I would pay alot to see that actually.

[Ninjeff]

Brokeback Paintball Gun


hold on let me think.....


mmmm...



yep, yep, that IS the ugliest marker ive ever seen.

[Mind'sEye]

Here's Ryan Greenspan hawking the 2006 Stryker STR-1. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J65FFZjeoQ4 I guess these low standards aren't that new of a development, but really are we looking for honor and truthfulness from ** employees? :p

[RogueFactor]

Dynasty is also sponsored by JT, have been since the teams beginning. JTs been doing this to pro teams on a smaller scale since back when they were still Brass Eagle and befor K2 even stepped into the picture. Dynasty was just too expensive untill now apperently. It is interesting, and ** will probably have something to say about it soon. I don't really know.

I know that Dynasty is sponsored by JT...but for hoppers and such. Not their markers, obviously.

[Anjin3515]

I noticed they stayed on the trend of swooshy milling to....so at least it fits in with all the other markers out there today!

[Mechanic79]

Those images are just repulsive.

Did Martha Stewart start designing paintball guns?
Did it come out of a kitchen or "toy" shop?

[robnix]

We worked with Striker to create a sweet looking marker that preforms even better than it looks. The Dynasty kit defiantly delivers me a paycheck-Ryan Greenspan

fixed.dat

[Ninjeff]

Then again, if JT is putting paychecks in thier pocket, it could be that they have to say this stuff as part of the contract.

So if their JOB (the guys from Dynasty) is to support their sponsers (because they cut the check) the they may have to follow the rules and say scripted things about stuff JT puts out.

I beleive another thread put it
"the sponsers are their for the company, not the players."

In other words, Verizon cuts my paycheck, and i say,and sell, stuff i dont agree with everyday. But hey, its keeps me fed.

[Mind'sEye]

Paris Hilton's job is to be a bimbo, but I'm not going to respect that either. I don't see anything wrong with drawing a line between legitimate business and obvious whoredom. If that's what Dynasty has to do to make a living then it's a another sad commentary on the present state of affairs.

[RogueFactor]

Paris Hilton's job is to be a bimbo, but I'm not going to respect that either. I don't see anything wrong with drawing a line between legitimate business and obvious whoredom. If that's what Dynasty has to do to make a living then it's a another sad commentary on the present state of affairs.

Ziiiiiing! :hail:

[Ninjeff]

Well, its perspective really.
I think of it like this:

Im a musician, playing music is what i LOVE to do. Its what i feel like i was made for. So, say some guitar company comes to me and says:
"hey, we heard your last album, and really like it. We want to give you a contract to make music for the rest of your life. But heres the thing, part of the contract will also state that you have to advertise on company X-Guitars behalf"

"do i have to play Company X's guitars?"

"Well, no, but you have to let us quote you saying that they sound great, and hold one for a picture."

"But i can still play my Dean guitars? And you allow me to make music?"

"yes"

"sign me up!"

Is it whoring myself out? Well, its a thin line. Ill give you that. Especially as a "punk/metal/thrash/rock" musician, doing these things for the man is something i struggle with. In the end, however, ive decided that should that situation ever come up i would be a fool not to take it. wanting to make music, and taking the chance when it presents itself isnt selling out. Sitting in a cubicle for the rest of my life because i didnt take the chance...is."

As for Dynasty, maybe their dream is to play paintball as a career. Thats what they have always wanted and worked for. If advertising for JT is part of being able to do that (play proffesionally) then i could see why they let the Team name be used. And again, chances are its just part of the contract they all signed.

[RogueFactor]

Integrity isnt about doing what we want to do. These days it seems integrity is in short supply....everyone wants what they want regardless of the price.

Somewhere i heard it coined "Integrity is doing the right thing when nobody is looking".

[Ninjeff]

Hmmm. Maybe we are arguing different points. Im saying if its in Dynastys contract to support JT and advertise for them, then they HAVE to do it. As a way of holding up their end of the bargain. That, to me, is integrity. I mean, the thing is as ugly as sin...i would never buy one....but i dont think thats the point.

Is it?

Has nothing to do with "doing what we want to do" really. Just that if they have a dream of being pro paintballers, and a JT sponsership affords them the ability to do that, and that same sponsership says "you have to sell JT products" and they, in turn, do that....then..where is the issue?

Im just confused on the whole "integrity" issue. Not trying to argue, im just not sure what you mean.

[RogueFactor]

When someone endorses a product, they are saying 'its good'.

If they werent being paid, do you really believe theyd say that marker is good? If not, then they are being dishonest. Thats where integrity comes into play here.

[Ninjeff]

I see what your saying.

Well, two points. One, we dont know for sure its "no good". Its ugly, but that doesnt mena it doesnt work.

Of course, we dont know that it does either.

Again, its a thin line, i agree. But to me, if they signed a contract saying they would sell for JT, NOT doing that would show a lack of integrity also.

[RogueFactor]

If the measure of something being good is 'it working', then there would be no need for an endorsement. Everything that works then, by default, is good. Right?:smarty:

So at least we agree they lack integrity. On both accounts. First for signing an agreement to say something is good that they wouldnt otherwise, and then again if they didnt honor their agreement.

[Ninjeff]

Or maybe we are both thinking of it wrong. Maybe JT shouldnt make these kind of markers.
:rofl2:

I dont know. they may work just fine for begining players. Seems to me thats what they were designed for anyhow.

I dont think Dynasty shows a lack of integrity on this issue. They are just doing their job to me.

But again, i see where you are coming from. I just respectfully disagree.

[RogueFactor]

I dont think Dynasty shows a lack of integrity on this issue. They are just doing their job to me.

But again, i see where you are coming from. I just respectfully disagree.

Minds Eye said it best...

Paris Hilton's job is to be a bimbo, but I'm not going to respect that either. I don't see anything wrong with drawing a line between legitimate business and obvious whoredom. If that's what Dynasty has to do to make a living then it's a another sad commentary on the present state of affairs.

[MedicDVG]

It was bound to happen. Hell I remember in the 70's when anything good happened, it was a cartoon, a lunchbox, and a breakfast cereal...:happydance:

Looks like Dynasty has made that level of marketing nirvana where they are famous enough to endorse crap and get kiddies to say "mommy I WANT that!"

:oneear:

[Ninjeff]

Lol. Indeed.

Maybe im just looking at it from a different perspective. With me, the industry i want to be in (music/entertainment) sometimes requires this sorta thing, and it happens all the time, so i dont see it as a big deal.

Oh well. One things for sure, im not buying one, and i doubt anyone else here is either.

[MedicDVG]

If Dynasty wants to let the industry pimp for them, they can't be upset if we call them whores...

[Ninjeff]

lol. well put.

But I suppose that comes with the territory when you are talking about sponsers, and the pro side of the sport that depends on them.

I wonder if big racing teams also have to do this kinda thing.

[MedicDVG]

Oh I am sure that Mark Martin really WANTED to do commercials on erectile dysfunction...

[guseppe16]

I particularly like this one:

We worked with Striker to creat a sweet looking marker that preforms even better than it looks. The Dynasty kit definatly delivers-Ryan Greenspan

In my opinion, it needs to perform tons better than it looks just to even be considered 'ok'.

[Anjin3515]

interesting....after watching that video again....he NEVER says..."I use striker"
just an interesting little observation.....


Ninjeff: I do see where you are coming from. The best situation IMHO is like Gene Simmons and KISS. He whores him self like no tomorrow...but he also admits he is in it for the money. First he is "selling out himself"..ie KISS's image,an image he and the band created, so its his to do with as he sees fit, second he is upfront and will tell you he is doing it for the cash. Does he have integrity...Im not sure....but I do respect he is honest in saying he is willing to put KISS on ANYTHING if he makes a buck off it.At the least he is truthful about his whoring.

[Mind'sEye]

Gene Simmons and KISS. He whores him self like no tomorrow...but he also admits he is in it for the money. First he is "selling out himself"..ie KISS's image,an image he and the band created, so its his to do with

Kiss was a grand illusion created by costumes and fireworks. The fact of the matter is Kiss never offered anything unique musically. I know I may be hitting a soft spot with some of you old fans, but Kiss always sucked. While it's true that Ryan Greenspan never says he uses Stryker markers, he lends his image to the illusion.

[Anjin3515]

Kiss was a grand illusion created by costumes and fireworks. The fact of the matter is Kiss never offered anything unique musically. I know I may be hitting a soft spot with some of you old fans, but Kiss always sucked. While it's true that Ryan Greenspan never says he uses Stryker markers, he lends his image to the illusion.

I agree KISS are not the most talented bunch....but they put on a good show.
What I was saying is that Gene knows he is in it for the $$$ and makes no bones about saying he is in it for the $$$.....I at least respect him for the honesty.


"never says he uses Stryker markers, he lends his image to the illusion."
Very true...I just thought it was interesting that he "never crossed the line" into saying he uses it.

[tymcneer]

Next time you all plan to post fugly markers... WARN US!!

I think I threw up a little...

BigEvil... We need a vomit smiley!

As to Dynasty whoring themselves... I guess they have to do what their corporate sponsors ask... If they don't like it... Quit the team!

Ty

[Cold Steel]

Kiss was a grand illusion created by costumes and fireworks. The fact of the matter is Kiss never offered anything unique musically. I know I may be hitting a soft spot with some of you old fans, but Kiss always sucked.

Sorry to go off topic,, but...

Man, it must be terrible to suck that bad and drag it out for 35 years. Guess all the women, money and fame were an illusion too. Yep, it would suck to be a no-talent hack like Gene Simmons. :thinking:

Now back to topic.
CS

[Mind'sEye]

Sorry to go off topic,, but...

Man, it must be terrible to suck that bad and drag it out for 35 years. Guess all the women, money and fame were an illusion too. Yep, it would suck to be a no-talent hack like Gene Simmons. :thinking:

Now back to topic.
CS

Actually, it's very much on topic. I was there when the Yardbirds and the Who laid the groundwork for heavy metal/hard rock. They stretched the boundries while the Beatles were writing catchy pop tunes and the Rolling Stones were still attempting to play the Blues. I was there when Led Zepplin and Black Sabbath developed the art form. Then mediocre bands began to appear wearing Halloween costumes, killing chickens and drinking "blood" on stage. They did it because they couldn't match the Masters musically so they shlocked their way to success. I think it's directly related to the frequent conversation here, substance vs hype, honor vs deceit. Do I think people like the Gardners can pull it off and drag it out for 35 years? You betcha.

[BigEvil]

I know I may be hitting a soft spot with some of you old fans, but Kiss always sucked.


I just wanted to see that again. :clap:

[michbich]

For me, it's not a question of integrity. It could help bring new players in the paintball world (wich is important), but it's more a question of producing garbage.

[Cold Steel]

Actually, it's very much on topic. I was there when the Yardbirds and the Who laid the groundwork for heavy metal/hard rock. They stretched the boundries while the Beatles were writing catchy pop tunes and the Rolling Stones were still attempting to play the Blues. I was there when Led Zepplin and Black Sabbath developed the art form. Then mediocre bands began to appear wearing Halloween costumes, killing chickens and drinking "blood" on stage. They did it because they couldn't match the Masters musically so they shlocked their way to success. I think it's directly related to the frequent conversation here, substance vs hype, honor vs deceit. Do I think people like the Gardners can pull it off and drag it out for 35 years? You betcha.

I agree with what you're saying in principle. Just disagree with your comparisons. Comparing Kiss to the Yardbirds, is like comparing the Tippmann X7 to the NSG Splatmaster. Different times, different genres, different climates. Sure one came before the other. One laid the groundwork for the other to happen. I just don't believe we're comparing apples to apples here.

Just my opinion
CS

[simmy952]

Looks like a female playtoy. I wonder if it has different vibrating settings. If they sell enough of these maybe they can find a better show to sponsor. We use to have only one paintball program on TV and it was horrible. Paintball World. I tried to watch it but after a while the wife said that if paintball was that boring why would you play. Now I have no paintball on TV. :wall:

[RogueFactor]

Do I think people like the Gardners can pull it off and drag it out for 35 years? You betcha.

This man speaks the truth! :clap::wthumpup:

[Mind'sEye]

I agree with what you're saying in principle. Just disagree with your comparisons. Comparing Kiss to the Yardbirds, is like comparing the Tippmann X7 to the NSG Splatmaster. Different times, different genres, different climates. Sure one came before the other. One laid the groundwork for the other to happen. I just don't believe we're comparing apples to apples here.

Just my opinion
CS

I agree with you there except to say that, IMO, it's more like comparing an NSG Splatmaster to an *** (popular brand name marker :)), and I'll leave it at that.

[redic]

my eyes


they burn

[Ninjeff]

OH! and i never really liked Kiss.

But Minds Eye, are you saying the whole "theatric" style of music is substance following form?

Because i beg to differ: Ie: Led Zep. Alice Cooper, Queen, Hendrix, etc etc....all of them used quite "theatric" productions, from makeup, to stage shows, to loud and crazy costumes (im looking at you Jimi) to light shows, and "dark magic" being part of the mistique.

But, yea, Kiss sucked.

:wthumpup:

[Mind'sEye]

OH! and i never really liked Kiss.

But Minds Eye, are you saying the whole "theatric" style of music is substance following form?

Because i beg to differ: Ie: Led Zep. Alice Cooper, Queen, Hendrix, etc etc....all of them used quite "theatric" productions, from makeup, to stage shows, to loud and crazy costumes (im looking at you Jimi) to light shows, and "dark magic" being part of the mistique.

But, yea, Kiss sucked.

:wthumpup:

LOL, please excuse me if I sound like a **** here, but I saw Hendrix at his first Los Angeles appearance and my concert experience dates back to 1965. Yes, they are all just my own opinions, but they ARE strong.

Jimi and Zep wore "hip" clothes and changed the sound of music. Alice and Kiss wore Halloween costumes and churned out kiddie anthems. Yes, theatrics has always been a part of Rock going back to it's inception. You can be the judge of whether or not the escalating theatrics began to overshadow the music and turn it into a cartoon parody. I say it did. The underground was always there but, IMO, the music suffered until bands like Nirvana and Pearl Jam finally came along to restore creativity and innovation on a popular level.

I've completly lost sight of how this applies to a Dynasty "sell out", so I'm off for another glass of Courvoisier.

[Ninjeff]

OH! And Minds Eye, you got to see Hendrix live? You lucky devil you! I, for one, am jealous. I think theatrics hold thier place in music. I love all forms. underground (as ive spent my last 10 years touring around and trying to be a part of said underground) to loud arena rock like cooper, and well, ok, ill admit, one of my all time favorite bands is Motley Crue. dont get much more "over the top" than that eh? Lol. i would love to talk music with you soemtime. If just to hear the stories. Maybe its an OT topic waiting to happen?

[Anjin3515]

Nirvana -most OVERRATED band EVER! :twocents:

[MedicDVG]

http://img409.imageshack.us/img409/7866/offtopicbe8.gif

:happydance: :banana: :happydance: :banana: :happydance: :banana: :happydance:

[bryceeden]

fixed.dat

When did I become a whore? Its not like I post that much:pimp:

[BlueDragonX]

We worked with Striker to creat a sweet looking marker that preforms even better than it looks. The Dynasty kit definatly delivers-Ryan Greenspan

I really can't take fault with this comment. The marker is ugly as sin, so as long as it shoots paintballs (sometimes) it will perform better than it looks. :wall:

[bryceeden]

I really can't take fault with this comment. The marker is ugly as sin, so as long as it shoots paintballs (sometimes) it will perform better than it looks. :wall:

This is true.

[BigEvil]

You win, Scott.
Enjoy the circle jerk here that you wanted, and delete my account.

Ok, As per request.

[robnix]

In other whore news.

Alaska Official calls for Investigation into Russian Crab Advertising

“Alaska’s speaker of the House wants an investigation of Wal-Mart sales of Russian crab that’s packaged in a box featuring a vessel that catches U.S. crab in the Bering Sea.

The sales promotion attempts to ride the fame of the F/V Northwestern and its skipper, Sig Hansen, who is featured in “Deadliest Catch,” the reality series broadcast on the Discovery Channel.” This was the report today from the Seattle Times.

This reaction from the Alaska Speaker of the house stems from an exclusive story published in the Seattle Times on Tuesday, November 15, 2007.

For fans of this site, the real surprise was the story of Captain Sig Hansen also reported in the Seattle Times. Our boats captain, Phil Harris was quoted in this story.

Phil Harris, owner of the F/V Cornelia Marie of Kodiak, Alaska, also turned down the Global Fishing marketing pitch.

“This whole thing stinks to high heaven,” said Harris. “We are madly trying to get consumers to buy American seafood.”

As the quote states, Captain Phil is not happy about Russian crab being promoted by an Alaskan fisherman. Phil Harris and the F/V Cornelia Marie crew is not associated in anyway with the sale of Russian crab. We have and will always support the fishing business in the U. S. and do not in anyway support the efforts of anyone who chooses to do otherwise.

Alaska King Crab is a superior product. The crab industry is highly regulated in the United States and has been for decades. Here is an excerpt from the Alaska Seafood Institute.

“Regardless of seafood being harvested, once the quota has been reached, the season is closed, ensuring the needs of the harvest are balanced with the needs of the ecosystem. Limits are precisely calculated to keep the world-stocked with a continuous, ever-replenishing supply of seafood the way nature intended it from the wild of Alaska.”

It will be impossible for Alaskan fishermen to compete against a country where illegal fishing is allowed to exist. The state of Alaska and Alaskan fishermen have worked hard to establish “Alaska” as a brand name when it comes to seafood. Alaska Governor, Sarah Palin states, “Recognized the world over for its effective resource management practices, Alaska is the gold standard for premium wild and sustainable seafood.”

We hope consumers do not confuse Alaska crab with crab from other countries such as Russia.

Alaskan Fisherman promoting RUSSIAN crab for WalMart.

[Ninjeff]

:confused:

I feel like i missed something.....

[RogueFactor]

Alaskan Fisherman promoting RUSSIAN crab for WalMart.

Did the story say which Alaskan fisherman was promoting Russian crab?

Ive worked for 3 companies that do business wit Wal-mart...dont get me started on them.

[Mind'sEye]

Stuff is always cheaper at WalMart, http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.do?product_id=5824912

[robnix]

Did the story say which Alaskan fisherman was promoting Russian crab?

Ive worked for 3 companies that do business wit Wal-mart...dont get me started on them.

Sig Hansen of Deadliest Catch Fame.

[robnix]

Stuff is always cheaper at WalMart, http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.do?product_id=5824912

It shows a hopper, yet it doesn't include one?

[Mind'sEye]

The last review says it all.

[GT]

I just puked and I'm in class

[riflemanwi]

looks gay to me....

[p8ntball72]

I don't see the value using a top level team to promote a low level marker.
Does your average K-mart shopper or soccer mom even know who Dynasty is?

I think the industry has shifted to focus on entry level and dropped interest in turny and woods players once again.

long term players are now a niche market.
paintball as we know it is moving more and more to LASER TAG.

The guys that invented "the game" and innovative new quality products are gone, now all that is left are large sporting investment groups looking to profit in the quickest cheapest way.

http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/2629/titanic2tz3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/2629/titanic2tz3.76bb121f9d.jpg (http://g.imageshack.us/g.php?h=510&i=titanic2tz3.jpg) Fixed?

[Prezents]

Nice Box...

[RogueFactor]

paintball as we know it is moving more and more to LASER TAG.

That says it all. Really.

[Ninjeff]

Uhg, i hated laser tag.

[warbeak2099]

Soon they'll come out with the Lasoya edition BE Blade...:wall:

[nmib]

i think i might yack.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v142/Volks07/emot-suicide.gif

[txaggie08]

Wonder if it has as many screws as the triumph did.


Took me thirty minute to get that mofo into pieces the other day.....


I think tippman was smoking something funny when they designed it.....I KNOW stryker was...

[LinearGoose]

The quote:
“I wish there would have been
something this good when I was
stepping up from a pump marker”
- Alex Fraige
Captain - Team Dynasty

Made me laugh. I would take my Phantom over this marker any day. Im trying to step up here not stay in the same hole.

[bryceeden]

Wonder if it has as many screws as the triumph did.


Took me thirty minute to get that mofo into pieces the other day.....


I think tippman was smoking something funny when they designed it.....I KNOW stryker was...

I got afew Triumphs as rentals when they first came out. There has never been and will never be a worse marker to use for that.