Pro-Team Products and Brass Eagle Reach Arbitration Settlement Agreement

[BigEvil]

Pro-Team Products and Brass Eagle Reach Arbitration Settlement Agreement
Several months ago we reported that Pro-Team Products, a Florida-based design and manufacturing company, was engaged in arbitration with Brass Eagle Inc., over intellectual property matters.

We have now learned that the companies have reached a settlement.

The terms and details of that settlement are undisclosed but do include a gag order.




This is like a tease. "They have come to an agreement but hahaha they aint telling" I find this all amusing anyhow, and I know open the floor to wild and reckless speculation.

[MedicDVG]

I wonder what product line/IP they were in competition with each other.

Frankly it sounds as if PTP won whatever argument as BE is a MUCH bigger company as it is owned by K2 IIRC (or is it the other way around)...

Even so, it is a definitely a David and Goliath type of discussion to my way of thinking. Interesting to see what if anything comes of this.

[TnDeathInc]

its probably over the brass eagle plastic pump, anyone that can sink thier hands into that product line is going places.:lol2:

[CHRONOBREAK]

this was over the pneumatic stuff i believe, they (ptp) went after BE to recoop losses or to have the original deal held up

[RogueFactor]

I wonder what product line/IP they were in competition with each other.

Frankly it sounds as if PTP won whatever argument as BE is a MUCH bigger company as it is owned by K2 IIRC (or is it the other way around)...

Even so, it is a definitely a David and Goliath type of discussion to my way of thinking. Interesting to see what if anything comes of this.

This has to do with PTP licensing their Pneumag pseudo-patent.

I find it the opposite though. PTP was the one to take it to the media originally, so if anyone has been gagged, its PTP.

[BigEvil]

This has to do with PTP licensing their Pneumag pseudo-patent.

I find it the opposite though. PTP was the one to take it to the media originally, so if anyone has been gagged, its PTP.

Kinda what I was thinking. Not sure why they would want anything posted about it at all on .68 cal about it then.

[RogueFactor]

Kinda what I was thinking. Not sure why they would want anything posted about it at all on .68 cal about it then.

PTP wants this in the public. BE doesnt. And since its likely public knowledge from court documents that a settlement has been reached, there is nothing anyone can do about its announcement.

We will know soon enough the results, when we see whether or not BE goes after G-Force. One of PTP's original gripes was that BE wasnt going after the others who were building pneumags.

[TnDeathInc]

Well i hope my frame arrives soon ...

[CHRONOBREAK]

Well i hope my frame arrives soon ...

unless something has changed we should have them in 5-10 days. maybe bit more if shipping is slow or something.

gforce has their own patent, but then again so does DW and ptp, so we all know how that goes

[TnDeathInc]

yeppers, i hope it has the lpr i ordered with it i have 12 days off of tinkering and PS3-ing to do!!! coming up next week.

[MedicDVG]

Well by my way of thinking.. PTP won as there was a settlement. So.... that means that BE either a) decided it wasn't worth developing whatever IP they were trying to do as they saw no future in it so it would be cheaper to settle; or b) They didn't have a defensible claim and settled to avoid a public spanking by PTP.

Further speculation is if PTP was successful in defending their claims with BE, does this constitute prior art on the G-force patent, if we are indeed talking about a pneumatic frame? I don't think we have seen the last of this discussion as PTP has now, again speculating wildly, set a precedence on its patent and may have some legal leverage against other Pnue-frame producers.

Either that or I am hugely full of **** and don't have a freaking clue what I am talking about --- a distinct possibility. But that is what you get with speculation.

Either way we will really never know without careful monitoring of the industry to see which way the wind blows now.

[RogueFactor]

Well by my way of thinking.. PTP won as there was a settlement. So.... that means that BE either a) decided it wasn't worth developing whatever IP they were trying to do as they saw no future in it so it would be cheaper to settle; or b) They didn't have a defensible claim and settled to avoid a public spanking by PTP.

Further speculation is if PTP was successful in defending their claims with BE, does this constitute prior art on the G-force patent, if we are indeed talking about a pneumatic frame? I don't think we have seen the last of this discussion as PTP has now, again speculating wildly, set a precedence on its patent and may have some legal leverage against other Pnue-frame producers.

Either that or I am hugely full of **** and don't have a freaking clue what I am talking about --- a distinct possibility. But that is what you get with speculation.

Either way we will really never know without careful monitoring of the industry to see which way the wind blows now.

This wasnt about who had a patent. It was about BE licensing PTP's patent, producing goods, and then enforcing PTP's patent on others. Small companies license to big companies so that the big companies spend their legal dollars enforcing the IP.

A settlement alone to me means jack-****. Sometimes it costs more to fight than it does to settle. Im sure BE has bigger things on their plate to focus on than PTP. Thats my :twocents: