Everyone, i give you the searless reverse mag.

[hill160881]

What is left of the sear.

http://i971.photobucket.com/albums/ae195/hill160881/Temp/Projects/102_1214.jpg

How the sear started
http://i971.photobucket.com/albums/ae195/hill160881/Temp/Projects/102_1198.jpg

Here is an animation to show hot the mag normally works, I just reverse the firing order.
http://www.paintballlibrary.com/PBAnimations/animations/blowforward/rtemag2_6fps.gif

The madden voyage.
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[sandfreestyle]

very interesting

[hill160881]

I will shoot it tomorrow.:D

[Mann]

hmmm. That is a nice idea.

[hill160881]

Here was the first shooting video. It was working perfectly until I turned the velocity up. Without the LPR wrench to turn it up to, it started to leak down the barrel after the hopper. I turned The lpr up after and shot some more and leak gone.

Now that i have seen it will function it is time to go all nuts and start building a prototype to try and use in a few weeks.

I believe the main problem I am running into is that the ram vents to slow, causing me to run a very fine line between input pressure from the valve and the pressure the LPR is set at. So I will install a etek QEV on it and see if that makes a difference. The second thing I dont like is that the etek 2 board will only go up to 15 ms dwell :mad: I wanted to start at 20.

Well the video.
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[RogueFactor]

Nice mod.:wthumpup:

[hill160881]

Thanks.

This is the problem with the ram not venting fast enough, I think anyway.

Here is a pic to show the imbalance in flow through the ram. See how small the elbow hole is in comparison to the vent hole in the ram.
http://i971.photobucket.com/albums/ae195/hill160881/102_1219.jpg

[kill-n-spree]

Your the man Tracy. You have been coming up with some innovative stuff lately. You need to figure out how to make some money with your ideas. I've got tons of people wanting me to make them a Angel Pump, but just not figured out how to do it quickly so it is cost effective.

[hill160881]

There is the problem. There is no real money in this stuff and since I cant make enough of the parts to make money why not just share the Ideas and hope that it becomes something usefull.

Trust me if I had a proper shop, I would make my own Mag and it would not work or look normal at all. I would love to MQ the valve, but with the MQ valve in my head, not one that can be purchased.:ninja: This would be the best way to remove thew on off and the sear.

Another test and nothing but beautiful carnage on that poor tree.
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[sandfreestyle]

If I'm not mistaken the Virtue boards go up to like 25 ms dwell. That would be something to look into.

[hill160881]

I will look into them. I wonder if 08 ego boards in the star frames will go over 15.

[sandfreestyle]

08 had star frames? My stock geo board goes to 20 and that is the same board as the 08 i believe.

[hill160881]

Then a new test is warented with a star frame, as I have several ready to go on a mag that is easily arranged.:wthumpup:

[Gee Tee]

Neat project

How does the reverse system work? Am I right in saying the clippard ram piston now holds the sear and on/off shut? If it's any use I have a Lucky Unichip Ego5 board spare. Needs a battery lead and a suitable chip installed. A DM5 chip would allow up to 30ms dwell adjustment on this board.

I'm running one of these Lucky boards with a Spitfire chip in my own Egomag.

http://www.pbreview.com/products/reviews/4071/

http://www.mcarterbrown.com/manuals/Tadao/M3_DM5_Manual.pdf

[hill160881]

The board in the star frame is the same as in the 08 ego and the dwell will go higher than I need. I will do a test tonight with a starframe.

This weekend I will set down at the crono, with a case,:D and see what happens if i dump 2000 rounds on it.

I will use a 68/45 to see where it dies.

[hill160881]

The star frame test and no FSDO or shoot-down :banana: The valve is almost all the way up
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This is another efficiency mod that has shown limited results, but I may as well. I also put two on it instead of just one.
http://i971.photobucket.com/albums/ae195/hill160881/Temp/Projects/102_1222.jpg

[sandfreestyle]

Now that sounds better. I hate the scuffing sound. Oh, and you got some slow fingers there. lol

[hill160881]

Now you know why I resort to three fingers, I can barley pull 12 bps with two.lol

[hill160881]

First off, The POS camera died before the first video and wont turn on anymore. :cuss: Time for a real video camera.

A day of testing, 4000+ rounds and some surprising numbers, but not way better. With the gold bolt spring it did not want to crono over 250. With a slightly longer grey spring it cronoed fine.

The most noticeable differences were the accuracy difference between the two markers, and how much smoother the reverse mag shot. The reverse mag is one of the most accurate markers I have ever shot, I played 3 rounds on a hopper and two pods. I never shoot this little amount. It stacks way better at longer distances than my insert marker.

All test were with the same paint and barrel. I rounded all # to the nearest lower pod but none of the setups got into the next pod really.

Reverse Ego mag/level 10- Full 68/45- 1280+- rounds at 285ish

Ego mag/level 10- Full 68/45- 1080+- rounds at 285ish

Ego mag/level 7- full 68/45- 1120+- rounds at 285ish

If the bolt were lighter and the shot chamber were smaller I think I could get another 100+ rounds or so. I also need to try other on off pin lengths, to try to use the plugged level 10 bolt I have . So some tinkering will settle it and it will take its place as my workhorse marker due to its amazing accuracy at longer ranges.

Edit: as it turns out some of the tuning troubles were due to the on off pin being .007" to long:wall: Now I need to do another test.:banana:

The latest run
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[hill160881]

Ok today was the first real day of play and the only problem i am having is an occasional drop in LPR pressure because the AKA reg is just not up to this task. This causes a hot shot and it brakes the ball in the barrel. So I am putting the pebble on it next week.

In the mean time I thought I would show off the great accuracy that this new firing order produces. At 20 yards it is ball on ball. Keep in mind that I am standing and in simi mode so I have to pull the trigger every time at high rates of fire. Also THIS IS DXS FIELD PAINT. So not the greatest.

At 20 yards and 280 fps I will hit you in the head almost every time, even while ripping :D . It is so accurate that it is scary, All the way out to where they hit the ground. One reason is no more recoil. Devilman got a side by side comparison between my pinstriped baby and the reverse mag, so he can confirm my statements as will this video. :wow: That poor mask.

Notice how silent it is at 20 yards away. Does not even sound like a Mag.
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[kill-n-spree]

Pretty damn impressive Tracy. Did you and DM get out and play anywhere today?

[hill160881]

I played a bit today but it was mostly renters so I quit after two or three rounds due to the lack of difficulty. Especially with this thing, give me a foot or a barrel and you are out with one or two shots. DM did not play today, I wanted him to use that super light mag, but I think it was still to heavy for him.:violin:

[kill-n-spree]

I played a bit today but it was mostly renters so I quit after two or three rounds due to the lack of difficulty. Especially with this thing, give me a foot or a barrel and you are out with one or two shots. DM did not play today, I wanted him to use that super light mag, but I think it was still to heavy for him.:violin:

Really? I heard he put on 60 pounds of muscle in the penn.

[hill160881]

Palmers pebble installed and way better. That poor aka reg cant hack it at those input pressures but the pebble is rated at 1300 psi, and its built like a brick sh** house, and is really fast. :hail: The pebble:hail:

Edit: This reg has solved problems for me three times now against AKA, WGP, and ANS LPRs.