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TheRock
01-04-2008, 09:41 AM
Helloo!

Think i need some help, beeing a mag newbie...

Tac one new from AGD 4 weeks ago, shot like 3 cases through it and maybe 5 tanks of air so it should be broken in?

I thought i grasped the lvl10 workings but now i have a little problem that i dont understand.

its tuned with red spring it cant give me more than 270fps before it leaks out the adjuster with stock barrel, im fine with that now when i play indoor and its really nice on paint!
Been using it like this for about 2 cases with no problems, fed it oil before and after play.
Last time i played it refused to fire specially after a rest or just not shooting for about 30 secs, when it did not fire i pushed the trigger and i felt pressure build up behind the trigger and it clicked something about 5 secs maybe and it was fine to shoot good consistent fps.

some sort of sticking? bolt? onoff? oh it was about 4+C degrees when playing.
i tried more oil but it did not help, fieldstripscrew only fingertight.
input pressure about 1100psi from PE tank(made an adapter to check output),

bought it for the rt effect but not really happy with it yet, because with the shortest spring it screams out crazy bps but it makes a big mess, with redspring its hard to get it reactive but being able to shoot whatever ive fed it with. I WANT IT SCREAMING and beeing gentle:wthumpup:

will i get better reactivity with emag onoff assy? or do i only need the quad oring? i can see that emag onoff pin is thinner .712 and the RT pins(.750 stock) from .728 up to .770.

i will feed it with a manifold maxflow when ive solved the shootdown i have with that piece of metal that could have been something else instead. :nana:

anyone care to read all of those letters and give a few tips? :kissass:

Hi from Sweden!

BigEvil
01-04-2008, 09:48 AM
The leaking out of the velocity adjuster should not be happening at all with the red spring. You might have a defective reg piston, I've seen it before where the over pressure relief was set too low.

Reactivity is not only determined by the input pressure, but by the length of the on/off pin. A long pin will hamper the RT effect. Stock pin for a mech is anywhere between .750 - .730 long. An emag pin is .715. I run mine at .700 and under.

TheRock
01-04-2008, 09:57 AM
aha so i would see an improvement with emag onoff assy then, or do i only need a shorter pin and use xvalve onoff pin housing brass thing just to be cheap?
So you have some mad rt in your piece?

I will contact Roman about its leaking.

:clap:

BigEvil
01-04-2008, 10:36 AM
aha so i would see an improvement with emag onoff assy then, or do i only need a shorter pin and use xvalve onoff pin housing brass thing just to be cheap?
So you have some mad rt in your piece?

I will contact Roman about its leaking.

:clap:

Just the pin. They are about $12.

tymcneer
01-04-2008, 10:38 AM
I have a LOT of good luck using 1100psi input pressure, and a ULT that is tuned to the ragged edge of full auto/uncontrollable. Ask around about the mag a brought to Tunaball last year. It was crazy fast!

Ty

BigEvil
01-04-2008, 10:56 AM
I have a LOT of good luck using 1100psi input pressure, and a ULT that is tuned to the ragged edge of full auto/uncontrollable. Ask around about the mag a brought to Tunaball last year. It was crazy fast!

Ty

You know whats even better, when you take the ULT pin apart and put it back together shorter than spec :minigun:

tymcneer
01-04-2008, 11:03 AM
I truely hate the idea of shortening on off pins. It is so blasted hard to add metal back on if you over do it. ;)

I use the ULT's because they are more adjustable than standard RT on offs.

Ty